Client Story: Private Practice Therapy to a Booked Out Coaching Practice feat. Megan Walsh

 
 

Episode Summary:

Megan Walsh, a client of mine and holistic trauma therapist and coach, is on the podcast today and you’re going to be SO inspired by her beautiful story and her courage as she scaled her business. In our conversation, we talk about what it takes to go from 1:1 therapy and/or coaching to a one to many model. For her first launch, her goal was to sign eight to 10 clients, but she ended up signing 19 clients just with the group – not counting the 1:1 coaching offer that she also created. If you want to learn more about the method that she used to launch her program, you're going to love my FREE 20 minute workshop where you’ll learn how to get your next five paying clients with one simple strategy. In this workshop, I outline the exact strategy and hold no secrets back when it comes to the exact strategy that Megan used. This is also the same strategy I use to grow my business. If you want to learn more about Megan and her work and the amazing impact she has with her clients on healing their childhood trauma and helping them thrive in their life, you can find those links below in the show notes!

Topics Discussed:

  • How Megan chose her niche and message as a holistic trauma therapy and coach (and how Sell with Heart helped her overcome obstacles in doing so) 

  • The BTS of Megan’s first launch after going viral (and with a bare minimum sales page) and how she balanced it all with her in-person practice and motherhood 

  • How Megan created margin in her life and managed her time as she was going through her launch and why asking for help is a necessity 

  • What it has been like for Megan post-launch and how she has felt affirmed and grounded in the program itself while visualizing what’s to come for future rounds 

  • The learning curve that Megan has experienced moving from 1:1 therapy to 1:many group coaching and how she ensures she still feels connected to each person individually 

  • The process of Megan creating a 1:1 offering too and how she separated this from her in person therapy practice (while making sure it was still legal)

  • How Megan learned to trust herself with her new income, hire the support so that she can scale, and why all women deserve multiple income streams  

About Megan:

Megan is an engaging, modern therapist who believes we all deserve compassion and have the capacity for growth, connection, and empathy. What separates her from a traditional therapist? She has advanced training in the use of creativity to accelerate her clients’ growth. She won’t simply smile & nod across the screen, she and her clients talk, create, & actively work together to ensure they are moving towards the goals you are seeking. As a therapist, it is her job to support her clients  in gaining new insights into themselves, whether it be identifying patterns in relationships that no longer serve them or finding ways to create a new and productive relationship to their anxiety. These moments of increased awareness and understanding of yourself are the key to growth and creating the life and relationships they deserve. 

Connect with Megan:


  • Hi friends. I am so excited for our chat today and to welcome Megan Walsh, holistic trauma therapist and coach and just extraordinarily kind human. Welcome Megan. Anna, thank you. It is so, so lovely to be here with you fellow kind human. So we are here for many things, but to mostly just celebrate and take a moment to reflect on a beautiful, brave era that you had of launching a beautiful new course and program on top of.

    being mama, being wife, having one -on -one client, like you did an amazing thing as we open up, like what are your thoughts? Well, first, first I just want to thank you. I am just so grateful for your support in this because I mean, I started, started sell with heart with you in, in January and it is June.

    And in January, like you've seen me go like literally in the six months, you've watched me go through like quite a few iterations of what I wanted this program to be. And so like, I think I say this all too, because I'm a little like mind blown at like where things stand right now. I'm so grateful and so, so excited. And most of all, like I feel so, so just like really, really in my heart, so grateful that.

    that it's what I'm doing right now is so in alignment with what drives my passion and how I want to support people. And it's so in alignment with what I was already doing. And you just really helped me to kind of shape it and put it into this new form. Because as a trauma therapist who works to support people who are learning and navigating how to reconnect to themselves after going through various

    traumas in childhood and otherwise, I am just really, really glad that that is the same client that I'm supporting in these programs and in this program that I launched. Because I think at first I thought it had to be different. As a therapist, right, of course, there's that ethical barrier that feels like, I can't market to the same client, but I could, right? And it was really, really helpful.

    Anna (02:21.454)

    to be able to talk that through with you and the mastermind and understand that actually I can do it this way and I can do it in a very clear ethical way that, that, that there's just really an alignment with me. And so I'm just really, really grateful for that. And so excited. and the poor on week three of this program and it's going so well. So, I love that. Yes. Full circle moment of having launched it, having been through the program, right.

    Yeah, I love that you mentioned to like the start of your journey because I think so often like we see people shiny success stories, but don't really see the behind the scenes of like, no, there were some weeks of like figuring out and especially like as you know, as a therapist really wrestling through the legalities and the ethics and the. All of that that makes scaling I think a little bit more complex, like maybe take us back to month one and or when you were more in the swirl of like what should I message? How should I?

    you know, niche the group. Yeah. I, I think initially I thought, I have to, I can't, I can't market to, I can't message to my, my same clients because it's going to be confusing and it's going to be, just not clear. So I have to do it to like, just to someone who's not them. And, and I think the fact that like, it just never felt right. It never felt aligned. It's like, I wasn't excited.

    I wasn't excited to create content around it. Like I felt like, I kind of want to hide this. And I knew that anytime I had that sort of feeling, like that wasn't it. And it was truly like, it was the mastermind women that, that inspired me to do this because I was like, Hey, I'm thinking this. I'm thinking like of creating a group to help support women to find, to kind of really understand themselves more deeply and build that sense of inner confidence that, that.

    that isn't there or isn't as strong as they would like it to be in the moment. And so much of that has to, the process of building that is the work that I do, right? It's the work that I do of going, going backwards to understand oneself and what one needs in order to move ahead with more, more confidence and grounding and self -assurance. And truly like the, there was one mastermind call where the ladies were all like, yeah, this sounds great. Like I would do this. This is exciting to me. And it was through seeing their excitement.

    Anna (04:38.574)

    that made me feel like, okay, then this is super possible. Like I can absolutely do this. And in after, like once I started to create it, like what also made me feel really grateful was that I, I had talked to the women and invited anybody who wanted to join to, to go through this program because I already knew that it's something that excited them. And then that made me feel really confident to continue to market it at a time when I didn't think like, I was like, I don't think I'm going to actually get like paying people to go through it.

    And so it just being in this space gave me so much, it gave me the confidence to be able to sell this program all about supporting women to find their confidence. I love that. And I agree. I really feel like the mastermind wrapped around you and rallied around you. But I will say it was really your willingness to be vulnerable, to ask, to say, would anyone do this with me? Or even when you were trying different visibility, right?

    Do I trying some reels for a different niche? Right. Or like, I think that's what we don't see is like the quote failures or like the mess or the like putting yourself out there. Right. That really is behind every sec single successful entrepreneur I see, which is like the times of being willing to for it to be uncertain for it to be like, I don't know if anyone is going to buy this program and make the sales page, but I don't even know if it's going to be worth it. Right. Right. Absolutely.

    Totally. And it's like that trust that, okay, like I'm going to do this because I believe in this bigger picture, which is something that's so great that you do is helping us to always like be in touch with that bigger picture and like stay connected to it and don't lose sight of it because that is like, that is the path that we are walking down. And so it's a, it has been so beautiful for me to be more intentionally connected to that and to trust it and to know that like, okay, even at those moments where I was like, I don't think this is actually going to turn into anything.

    you know, trusting that like you had my back, the group had my back. And that with that, like I already, it already was further than I think even my own doubts, thought it would be. So like that was just so, so helpful in this process. I love that. Okay. Walk us through a little bit of launching the group because I think group programs courses are an amazing asset to any business. However, I think the online marketing space does a disservice and that it doesn't tell women.

    Anna (07:03.182)

    that your first lunch is challenging. I think it's worth it, right? But you are creating the marketing curriculum, right? You're creating your course content. You're on a top of your normal life, your normal business, right? And so maybe walk us through, you know, but by all the definitions, like it was a smashing success. So maybe talk to us, talk us through your lunch. Sure. So the lunch, I mean, it's, this is good that we're reflecting on it because in my mind, it feels very messy. It feels like,

    Like it's hard to even like go back through of like, what was the step -by -step honestly, like, and I think I told you this in a meeting once I'm like, I, I'm just going to be going like, like literally I'm going to create what I have to send the day before or a day of honestly, that's kind of how I have to operate right now because I am, I have a full -time therapy practice on top of an 18 month old on top of them building this at the same time. So, so I was giving myself permission that like, I was trying to batch ahead and I was like, yep, nope, can't do it. so.

    Yeah, so I was honestly going one day at a time. Like I had the vision of like, okay, we're building up to this, but yeah, I was building as I went. And like in the middle of the launch, as I was launching the scholarship, I had a real go very viral, which really like brought in a whole new set of eyes, which, you know, again, like, and I've been consistently posting on Instagram for years. And this,

    This one kind of just like hit a nerve, especially with a lot of people. And what's beautiful is that it brought in so many more of the ideal client that I finally had settled on. Like I get to working with, right? For like who I was building this program for. So many more of eyes entered my community and my space, which was just such a gift at this moment in time. And then to have already like, I was in process of saying here, like, you know, you can apply for the scholarship and...

    Well, I had, I had, I think in the end, close to about 130 people apply for the scholarship, which was incredible and, and so beautiful. And so many of them commented, like, I love that you're offering this. This is so great. And I love that in their entrance into my community space was that right. That they could see that I wanted to give, right. Give to them. And so I thank you for that beautiful, right. For the get in coach framework, to, to implement that, because that actually was, I think such a key.

    Anna (09:30.126)

    factor and honestly is what like carried my launch to be honest, because that was in place. And then I got to have some really beautiful conversations with so many incredible women. Like honestly that it was just only natural that that process brought filled my group, like filled my group more than I had ever even anticipated. And so the fact that that was in place and that like set things up, it gave me permission.

    to feel like it's okay if I don't have the perfect amount of emails or the perfect amount of posts or this or that. It just, it really, it helped to even, that process helped to even further clarify how I wanted the program to run and how I wanted to build the course material because I am, I'm building it in doing a few weeks ahead of time. And so it's been just, all of it has been so helpful of a great lesson in that.

    It's not going to be perfect before, before it runs, like I've just like trusting that like, I got it. I can do it. I can build it. And, and I just love that, like just this, now this full community of, of, especially women who are, who are wanting the kind of support that I am so excited and eager to teach and to give. So it, it was a wild ride this launch, but again, what carried me through was the structure of this framework. Like.

    without a doubt. I love that so much. It is especially like the first one. It's always a wild ride, right? It's a rising up like motherhood, right? Your first child, no matter what, it's always going to be a wild ride. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't do it. Being a mom is my favorite thing on the planet, but also the first 18 months, like wild ride, right? Yeah.

    I was going to say, I love what you said about you had the bare minimums done, right? You had your beautiful sales page. You had your course announcement post, right? You had what you needed done, but then you put most of your energy, not on like perfect content or per like you put most of it on connection. And at the end of the day, that's what makes launches convert. Anyway, is the connection maybe at the start of a first launch, like you did, you're doing a lot of calls and you're really.

    Anna (11:43.502)

    hearing the objections and converting that way, right? Maybe in future launches, you're still doing some calls, but maybe it's other forms of connection, right? But no matter what I think, no matter if it's a $10 ,000 launch or a $50 ,000 launch, I think the women I see succeed the most are willing to have those connection points. How did you make margin to launch and connect on top of everything?

    Describe a little further what you mean. OK, so on top of like someone might be listening to this and being like, OK, awesome, Megan. But like, you know, when you have a full one on one practice, when you have priorities, when you have an existing business, how do you make eventually a group program saves you time because you're scaling your income. You're meeting with 20 people in one session. Right. But initially, there is some extra time. Like, how did you manage, I guess, your time as you were launching? Great question.

    that was, it was a lot. I mean, I was, I was working a lot and I had to have a lot of conversations with my husband, especially he's like, you're working like 24 hours a day. Like, this is not, this is not good for you. And I'm like, I agree. I know. And I know that like right now I am investing, I am investing this time for right. The future payoff of less time. And so I, I mean,

    I invested in extra childcare because typically I'd have my son for the mornings and see clients in the afternoon, but I invested in more childcare so that I would have that time and space to just to navigate everything. And I asked for help. I did everything that I preach. I need more help. I need more support. And I have to get it. I need that investment in me right now because I continue to trust this is going to continue to build and to grow.

    And so whereas before this, I may have been like, I shouldn't, I shouldn't spend on, on the extra childcare. I shouldn't do this. I should be a bit more cautious. I very much was like, Nope, I'm, I'm all in. Like I am, I am giving myself that time and space to make this happen. And that's, that is honestly how, how it has worked, is really allowing myself to ask and to receive more that the additional time that I needed, cause it just, I had to.

    Anna (14:02.126)

    Right. There was, there was nowhere else to get. and I need to sleep. So absolutely. You need to sleep. I love that so much. Just really embracing and getting more support, even from heavy, like having that conversation and being like, okay, it's going to be a little bit more right now as I'm like working on this project. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Going to be more. And, and he's, he's counter is like, but it's probably always going to be more, isn't it? I'm like, no, because if I stay committed, right? Like I'm.

    Honestly, like that is part of this is, is in the growing, like the intention is that, that I have to do it right with the right supports and in a way that does decrease the amount of hours that, that I spent, right? Cause if my whole job has been client facing by the hour up until this point, like it's, it's going to be a lot more right now while it's all happening at the same time, but ideally, right. It's going to slim down to, to less.

    Absolutely. Right. I love that. Like keeping the goal in mind and being like, okay, now that I've built this, now how do I let myself enjoy that? How do I leverage this? How do we be intentional about letting that income stream build and releasing that other income stream? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Love that. Talk to me about what in the past three weeks, what has been your favorite thing about having your wish and having a group of amazing people?

    It is, it's so great. I mean, like it's, it's incredible that they're right. It's real. They're here. Honestly, our first group call, I was really nervous for it because I've been so used to like, obviously as a therapist, like holding space for a lot of people, but this, right, this was, this program has been my brainchild. And of course, like, I want it, like, I want it to, right, to be the right kind of support. And, and of course I want it to be a safe container for support. Like as a therapist, that is the most important.

    piece for me, especially in like in selling this program. Like I want it to be a genuine, right? Transformative experience in a safe way, because when we're talking about trauma, like this is, it's a lot. And, and so after that first group, I was like, okay, this is right. This is it's right. Like this is going to be a really important, supportive structure and container for these women. Like I can see it already, like just by being here together.

    Anna (16:25.998)

    and being able to talk about these things that are coming up in ways that some have not been able to express before, so powerful. So that just really made me like, just really feel so grounded into the program itself and has made me like really, really excited as I continue to build it. And of course, even like visualizing what it's going to look like in the next round and how I can continue to, yeah, to deepen the process.

    I love that so much. They are so lucky to have you, Megan. Tell me what was your goal in filling the program and what did you end up with? My goal was to have like eight to 10 participants. That was going to be like more than enough for me. And honestly, right now I believe I have 19 women part of the program. So.

    So amazing. What I feel like people hearing that that may have just done one -on -one work before maybe like, how do you even handle a group of like 19 or 18 or like, how do you like, how has it been on the other side of having a group container? Yeah, this, I think this is the biggest learning curve for me is because I'm so used to like wanting to get like such a deep, like one -to -one support. This is, this has been, yeah.

    a learning curve of, of understanding the boundaries of what my offering is in this space and making that very clear. And honestly, like you're how you run sell with heart has been the model for how I do that. And so much of it is having to create, you know, strong boundaries and trust that allow the group members to show up to the group themselves and to not feel like that I have to write. I have to carry.

    everyone, but that I have to trust that they're here, then they're going to do the work that I've laid out for them. You know, they're going to participate in the modules and do the prompts and then join us in the group space. Like I've created a container and the structure in every way, and then it's up to them to do the work and to move through it and experience it. So that is one that I have to continually remind myself how to hold. And then,

    Anna (18:49.646)

    I think what is so great is that I know that they know that I'm here and I've made it very clear, right? I'm here for you in this space, you know, where the group is held in a circle community. and so in that space for there's different forums to, to chat, to connect, to, to reflect and, and then, and I am there as well. And in, in this, in this group space, I have everybody that signed up, signed up with, with a special bonus where they get a one -to -one call with me. So that's another way that I think.

    it's going to help me feel really, really connected to each person individually and check in and see if there's anything they're needing more in the process. And I've made it very clear to everyone that this is our first round. And so I'm so open to any feedback of what's working, what's not working. And I think giving myself that permission to show up imperfectly and to tell everyone, I'm building this in the way that I envision I think will be the most helpful. And...

    you are an equal part of that process. So I want their, their input and their feedback as well. I love that so much. I think it's such a beautiful, there is something about the first round that such an amazing collaborative experience. And I think, you know, before we do something like launch your group program, we want to have it all perfectly prepared. But what I hear you saying here is like, you really did your launch in real time. You're really creating the program in real time. And like, I was so hesitant to do it.

    to do that, but I do think programs are better. Eventually, we want to have systems and structure and blah. But initially, it's better to not, because then you don't have to steer such a large ship. It can be flexible, but it takes a lot of self -trust and a lot of courage to lead like that. Yeah, absolutely, for sure. And I know that my own personal work and my work as a therapist has definitely helped me to feel really comfortable in this space.

    because I know, and I trust I can hold this container and I can be like, you can tell me that I'm being imperfect in various ways. Like absolutely. I want to know that because this container is all about you, the, the, the program member, right? Having an experience where they feel like their needs are, are being met and they're feeling seen and heard. And so that goes both ways. I love that. Okay. Beautiful. Beautiful. Okay. Shifting gears a little bit, because I'm trying to think like what people would ask if they were listening in on.

    Anna (21:14.606)

    to our conversation is something else you did that is amazing is you added a one -on -one coaching offer in addition to the therapy work. And I get so many questions from women about the courage to do that. Can you speak to that a little bit? Yes. You know, that almost like I knew that that would be in place, but kind of with the influx of, of.

    members in my, you know, in my Instagram community, I got a lot of requests for it and, and for people to receive support outside of the states that I'm licensed in. And so I had to kind of, you know, quickly, you know, shift gears and really, really solidify for myself, what, what is the difference between my, my one -to -one coaching offer and my therapy practice. And so I kind of sat down really teased through that. You supported me in getting the right contract to also to separate and.

    And that was really a process of like, okay, having to really tease apart the two businesses and put the systems in place that were like sort of there, but not fully officially there. So once those were in place, then I felt really, really excited to welcome in. Right now I have four one -to -one clients, coaching clients. And yeah, it's actually, it's been like a really fun, refreshing.

    addition to the work because I get to show up to it like a little bit differently than I do in my therapy work. I have a little bit more permission to bring a little bit more of myself into this space, which for, you know, if you know therapy, the therapist does not bring in a whole lot of themselves into the space. But I do it in a way, of course, that has the needs and the best interests of my client in mind. But it's been,

    It's been fun to kind of explore the difference and to know that like, I am still me in either space. and I still have the same expertise, the same knowledge, the same, all of that. but it's, it's just structured a little bit differently. And so it's been fun. I'm really, I'm really enjoying it. I love that you gave yourself permission to create that revenue stream. I think like as women.

    Anna (23:24.174)

    Like we deserve to be able to make money in multiple ways, right? Whether it's through a coaching stream, whether it's through a therapy stream, whether it's through a done for you offer. And I think sometimes we feel guilt. Like I've had clients before that are done for you creators and then be like, I think I want to coach. but I can't do that. Right. Or a coat. And then it's so interesting how we do this. And I think especially therapists, because we're trained rightfully so to not be damaging and to be legal and ethical, which is important.

    But I think sometimes for heart centered therapists, we almost overly go there and forget that. Yeah, but it's still legal for us to make, to have a candle business or to have an, like, we can still have other revenue streams and options for different areas of our life and business. Totally. What mindset most helps you break out of the, give yourself permission to create, whether it's the group coaching or the one -on -one coaching stuff outside of therapy.

    Yeah, it has taken a lot of teasing out like the critical voice that comes out that says like, this is unethical if you're a therapist, building this kind of business. And of course it feels very supportive at this time that actually a lot of therapists are doing this. Like it is a new wave of therapists really adding in this element because what I know that I don't have to explain or have an apology for is that like,

    I get to use again, I get to use this expertise to help more people like that. That is the mindset that like has really like boosted me into this work because like I have this expertise, whether I'm, I'm working with clients inside the state or not. And so I, it just makes me so happy and excited to be able to, to use it, like to use this knowledge, to teach. And I, like, I think when I entered the cell with heart, I knew that I liked the role of teacher. Like that is a role that really,

    excites me in teaching these concepts and how to apply them to your own life. And that is precisely, that is what I'm doing. And it's really, really exciting. And I know that it's having an impact. And it's really been awesome to hear that, to hear how it's already impacted the clients that I'm working with. When you were saying that, I just got this energy of freedom.

    Anna (25:43.598)

    Right. And I just wish I could give that to all therapists or any professional, right? Or that feels boxed in. And just this reminder that like it's say, like, I remember telling one of my first, when I was still doing therapy, I was like, so nervous. And she, my coach was like, do you have a track record of being unethical? Like, what are you so I'm like, no, like I literally am the opposite. She was like, then why are you so paranoid and so unself trusting that you're going to like go out there and do all this damage when you've literally never done that before. Right. And I just love this reminder of like,

    If you can help more people, go help them. Great. Yeah, absolutely. It's really, it's awesome. It's so exciting. And yeah, it's so freeing. Absolutely. I feel, I just, I feel so much more at ease, especially in being seen too, like in showing up and being visible, even though I was already visible, like with this higher visibility, like I feel much more calm and competent in it. Having done this work myself and feeling calm and confident to show up in this way.

    Let's talk to that for a second. And then I'll let you go to is like, I hear a lot of women say like, I'm nervous when I grow my, like when I scale my business, when I have a group program on my Instagram following grows, like that I will be less calm, right? That I will like maybe talk a little bit about why you feel like scaling, growing, having more income, having more resources, having more clients, having a bigger Instagram following in what ways does that.

    I think people think like, my God, my life is going to be ruined when I'm successful. I guess in what ways has your life not been ruined? That's a great question. It is such a, it's such a good one. You know, initially when the following grew, I, there was a lot of my own stuff that kind of got kicked up, but like luckily, right. I have my own therapist, my own support to really like, okay, process through like, what is this? What is this? And you know what? Like I needed to release that, like that had to come up and be released.

    in order for me to continue to expand and grow. And so in that way, like what initially felt like really overwhelming and like, like actually was the release that needed to happen. Like it, like, I got to this point that had to go, in order to open up and to expand and to bring in more. And it's been really, I mean, it's so cool. Like, and as therapist, I'm saying this before I say this, I have permission to talk about, right, business and income.

    Anna (28:04.11)

    And it's been very cool to see this additional income come in. And because I remember before, before the program launched, I was like, it's going to be really cool to like, finally see like a dollar come through this side of my business. Cause I like, I built, I had established my coaching side of my business, maybe like a few years ago before I got pregnant. but like, had never released anything, on this side. And I knew I'm like, that's going to be really cool. And then to see this bank account that I've had set up for years, but had never had a dollar come through it.

    Ro, it's been like really cool. So like I'll show my husband like, wow, look at this, like in one month, like what, look what has come in. and you know, it has been just really, really cool to see. And also like, just has helped me trust myself and trust my ability to grow my ability to invest in support. right before jumping on this call, right? I told you, I was speaking to, to a VA that I'm really excited to, to work with and.

    and that I'm feeling really calm and confident in investing in that way and not like, no, like there's not enough. Like this, I know that this is where, right, this is where this extra income needs to go is to help me get the support that I need to make eventually, right, make the workload less and easier while helping more people.

    Yeah, I love that so much. Right? What I heard you say is just the message of self -trust that trusting your future successful self that you'll hire the support that you'll hire the therapist to do the upleveling. So you can make capacity for more happiness and success, right? That you can, you, you, you're not going to be successful alone, right? You'll be successful and have the ability to be supported. Right. Absolutely. I love that. Okay. So good. in the last,

    few months, maybe share what was your highlight and or favorite thing about the mastermind or tangible or intangible. Like what was, what was the part that you feel like meant the most to you? In sell with heart. Yeah. I will say it like, I remember applying for the scholarship for sell with heart and like feeling like, do I want to like, do I want to do this? But I remember sitting in my living room thinking like, you know what? Something is telling me like, I like, like things will change if I joined this and, and.

    Anna (30:18.414)

    And so I'm so glad that I did because clearly, right, I knew it like that. This, this was going to be this supportive container that I needed to like usher me through all the like confusion and like the uncertainty of like, what do I want? I remember like truly going in, like my goal was like, I just want to create, like, I want to create my offerings and create my program and like, boom, here they are. it's so, so cool that that all happened over the course of this. I, I love your organization, right? Like trusting you that like.

    Anna has a worksheet for everything. I'm probably not the first person to see this, but like, truly, like if you need like a format for something, like it's so awesome to trust you that like I could go to you and you have it. Like you've got me like anything that you need to build, like Anna has, which is just, it was exactly, exactly what I needed at this point in time. And so trusting you helped me write to trust myself that like, I could tackle whatever comes this way. And then thirdly, the group of women was just,

    the best and so great and have developed such great friendships over the course of this program and online and in person. It's just been just such a wonderful space to be a part of in this season. So I'm just so grateful. So grateful for it. Yeah. It's such a joy to have you. OK, if people are listening to this and they're like, my goodness, Megan seems like the most lovely human, tell them.

    how to connect with you and what they can expect when connecting with you. Absolutely. So you can follow my Instagram, which is connectwithmeghan. That is my handle, -E -G -A -N. And on that page, you can expect a lot of education and support around navigating childhood trauma, your own healing journey to find a greater sense of inner calm, grounding, comfort.

    both within yourself and in your relationships. Like that is kind of my bread and butter. And I love supporting women and being able to find that for themselves. And so on my page, you can find some, I have three freebies that you can download on how to have hard conversations, inner child healing prompts, and a mindful morning journal that I think like you would love that, Anna, actually. I was like, I should open like, yeah, I should go.

    Anna (32:39.47)

    You've already, I mean, you already have our beautiful, right? Like the daily check -in, but it's very similar. And yeah, and then you can find my website there and whatever offerings are there at the time that you're listening. I definitely go over to Megan's Instagram and follow her. What I love about your Instagram too is it's just such a beautiful, I feel like you carry this unique energy of teacher and being willing to tell the truth and be direct and to be honest and to say the hard thing, but you never know that you were doing that.

    because you just have the most genuine, loving, kind energy, right? And so I feel like for your Instagram is just such a reflection of your work. And so I think it's just such a great entry point for people. thank you so much, Anna. That is mean so much for you. Yes. Okay. If you listen to this interview and have any albums or takeaways, we would love to hear it. Feel free to tag us, whatever you'd like to do. And thank you so much, Megan, for being here. Thank you, Anna. So happy to be here.

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